If you leave Haven to go to Uptown the door is locked and says that it requires a key. You may not be able to leave unless you kidnap the baby. If, after Krenshaw leaves, you approach Ashur and initiate the conversation before he has a chance to initiate. If you played Fallout 4 and enjoyed the world and writing, definitely go and play Fallout 3.
In conclusion, there is no reason not to grab yourself a nice cold nuka-cola and go explore the wasteland from vault ! There's a chance to get free by combat, there's a chance he might find a cure, and there's a chance he might re-ignite the forge of industry, and do a little good for the wasteland in the end.
And a little chance is far better than no chance at all. However, considering that the slavery operation in the Pitt is causing massive human suffering and deaths on a large scale all around the place up to and including the Capital Wasteland hundreds of miles away, and all of this is really done mainly for the personal benefit of a slaver warlord Ashur and his gang of raiders, my Lone Wanderer usually ends up siding with the slaves and killing all of the hostile slavers and raiders..
IMHO if civilization is going to be rebuilt ever, this will not happen with all of these raiders and slavers running around, they need to be dealt with swiftly and decisively.
There are no extra resources available to take care of a large violent prisoner population for rehabilitation, and the raiders usually do not surrender anyhow, so the only valid solution is to keep on killing all of the slavers and raiders untill they stop raiding and slaving in the region. The cure is really just a secondary priority here, the orphan baby needs a new home so Midea gets to be the foster mom. Workers could be paid with production shares and trade caravans would bring in supplies in exchange for the steel products.
Post by Laclongquan » Thu May 27, pm What the hell? It's very obvious that we are going with the slaves. I know you dont care for slaves but should anyone have to eat Trog slop? This is a soulful question here. Slave revolt is a thing. Stand on the side of raiders and you stave that off for maybe another month. Who the hell would want to work their ass off to eat slop made of trogs?
So standing on raider is a futile thing. I bet they never had slop once. Midea I have no opinion about but that man is, I dont know, typical Wasteland strongman chief. The point is, Ashur sit on the throne made of blood and lives of slaves so down he go.
Wenher Smenher, if not him then other can replace him. I dont know why people even hesitate on this very basic, point-giving, question. Sarah being a mother? Please, as if we need to or have to kill her anyway. Ashur being a good father? Baby getting test and everything? Let me remind you guys of one basic rule of slave revolt: bosses die, down to babe in craddle. Survive is a great thing, innit.
Slave society dont work without slaver or manager? Please, this is no ancient slavery in agricultural or even near modern age. This is a group of hard workers who had to work a steel mill complex to make bullet case and possibly other complex things as well.
Think of Pittburg workers in the They damn well can work. If you think otherwise, some blue coverall muscled old men are going to beat you to death with their walkers.
Risewild wrote: Ashur doesn't like using slaves, and also doesn't like the word "slave". He is only using them because it is the only way to build a future for The Pitt. He uses slaves because no one else would want to work in The Pitt because of all the radiation sickness. His plan is to build a industrial community that will benefit mankind for the future. He says that once the cure is found using his daughter Marie to do it , he won't need to force people to work anymore and will free all the slaves.
After that he will continue using the industrial complex in The Pitt to pave the road for the benefit of mankind. A community that will be fair for everyone, leader and workers where everyone will be prosperous and work on their own free will.
It will be a prosperous place that can make use of the pre-war machinery to help mankind's future. Basically, Ashur's doing a bad thing now to lead to a good thing for everyone.
Exactly like "the end justifies the means". Pick which side you think you'd be on. Neither choice is outright good or outright evil. Choose the baby to side with the slave and don't to side with the raiders. And like 1KingOfGames said you'll wanna kill the mother first since she has a good gun, though if your a high level that gun could barely hurt you.
User Info: jackwinz1. If you want to side with the slaves, take the baby. If you want to side with the raiders, don't. If you pick it up all the raiders instantly become hostile. Nothing long lasting, just picking sides really.
I talked Wehrner into just walking away from the whole thing. Returning to Ashur, I abandoned my original plan to scour the entire city of him and his subordinates. What kind of order would arise from the power vacuum? Could work on "the cure" continue? His child was supposed to bring about a Science! Holy shit, hat's a game-changer for the entire wasteland, the entire world. How on Earth was I supposed to weigh that against the suffering of the slaves? I ended up leaving him alive.
I actually appreciated that though. It's interesting to have to genuinely struggle with a choice rather than say "hm, am I doing my "good guy" plathrough, or my "bad guy" playthrough? If it were an open-ended tabletop game, I'd have told Wehrner to screw, offered to take wife and kid back to Dear Old Dad who's not a slouch at the Science! If wifey didn't want to give up being the kept woman of a slavemaster, then she can either stand aside while I kill every slaver there or line up with them.
Slaves can have the place, though I'm skeptical they can come up with a new order that's terribly much better, but at that point I wash my hands of it. Then I adopt and take babby back to Rivet City. I didn't appreciate the tired old canard of "captured and stripped by GM game designer fiat" bit being used once again.
I just wish there were a more elegant way to set that kind of thing up. DeadLast Dancin in the Rain. Well, I hate to make you feel bad DeadLast said:. Kargush Free range Norwegian snow monkey Banned. I played through that on a friend's Xbox. I went with my personal beliefs on the matter.
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